The Circle Season 6 Episode 2 Recap

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Season 1: Perfect Match Season 1

Season 2: Love Is Blind Season 4

Season 3: Love on the Spectrum US Season 1 & 2

Season 4: The Ultimatum: Queer Love

Season 5: The Ultimatum France

Season 6: Too Hot to Handle Season 5 

Season 7: Love Is Blind Season 5

Season 8: The Golden Bachelor season 1

Season 9: The Trust: A Game of Greed

Season 10: Love Is Blind Season 6

Season 11: The Circle Season 6

Transcript

erika 0:17

Welcome back to Aliens Watching Reality TV, I'm Erika,

josh 0:22

And I am Josh?

erika 0:24

we are talking about The Circle, Season 6, Episode 2. Um, the second full episode of The Circle I have, um, made it through, and I gotta admit, I don't know that I'm gonna make it through the rest of the season. I feel like the, um, this episode, they are, they already ran out of ideas of what to do and it's like the second episode.

josh 0:51

Yeah, it's just I mean It's very hard to Watch these people these people react and emote. Um But at the same time you're like you're getting the barest minimum of text from the other side How can you like your the amount of emotion you're showing is a little unreal?

erika 1:12

Yeah, that's that's the thing is like none of it is real and that's what makes it boring To me, um, and honestly, the show seems like the pitch is like, Hey, what if you could have all the worst parts of socializing and none of the good parts? Like you will, um, be completely alone, um, but you'll only have surface level conversations with other people who might be lying to you all the time. Um, and you're just going to have to pretend that you like people so that they'll like you. And pretend that, like, you're bonding over stupid little cliches and, uh, pretend you're having a great time. Like, ugh, it's, it's terrible.

josh 2:03

Yeah, no there I mean if you are um I mean, if you are poor and you would like to enjoy good food and stay away from your family for a little bit, sounds great. Um, but I don't think it was that, um, I think for parts of it, I was just yeah, I felt like they're, they were overdoing it a little bit, but get into it and we'll, we'll discuss that a little bit more.

erika 2:29

Okay, um, well, yeah, you just watched it. I mean, I watched it like four hours ago, so, it's, you know, I'm, my memory's all rusty. You wanna maybe walk us, walk us through it? It

josh 2:44

Yeah, why not? Um, so they start off with bringing in these two new people that The, um, I mean, so the last time It kind of ended with everybody getting ranked and the top two people became, what did They become

erika 3:00

was Olivia.

josh 3:02

thing.

erika 3:03

And then Lauren, right?

josh 3:06

Lauren and Olivia. Yeah. Yeah. They become celebrities within

erika 3:09

Oh, influencers. Influencers.

josh 3:12

influencers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those things in the game, and they get to choose to bring new people in. so they choose, uh, one of them chooses Quarry, um, and the other of them chooses Max. So Olivia, who's actually Brandon, um, chooses Quarry and, um, Lauren picks, uh, Max. And Max is, uh, Corey is this, uh, African American girl. Um, she is, uh, She was actually in, um, Part of a, um, Uh, she, she's super athletic. Um, uh, Her job,

erika 3:52

She was a dancer for the LA Lakers.

josh 3:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was the cheerleader for the LA Lakers. The Lakers.

erika 3:59

I think a dancer.

josh 4:00

she's super athletic Yeah, um and then so what happened was that the other person is Max. He's a Veteran not a veterinarian. I apologize who has a cute little dog and he's very sweet and everything But he's actually an artificial intelligence. He's not real

erika 4:22

He's my favorite character, honestly,

josh 4:25

Well explain why

erika 4:27

um, because he's the, um, the one that makes sense to me. Um, and I kind of kept laughing at some of the stuff he would say because it's like, The thing is, I know a lot of autistic people absolutely hate the stereotype that we're like computers. But like, some of us are kind of like computers, and I'm one of them. And so, uh, it just made me laugh, some of the things he said, because I'm like, that just kind of sounds like, like a normal conversation I would have with autistic people. Like people who are like me, you know, and, but I can hear like how funny it sounds compared to, you know, I can hear how robotic it sounds, but I also know that like, it, it's this, uh, it's honestly, it's this concept that like, I didn't learn about until, um, I, I have seen one person on TikTok make a video about it, which. Almost never do you see like just actual new ideas and information. So I still think about it quite a bit. And he talked about how autistic people think that you can like pause a situation or pause a conversation and then like comment on it in a meta way. Um, so like if a conversation is going poorly or something, you know, you can kind of pause it and explain. Your intentions or why you're saying what you're saying or something to try and um, Help you guys understand each other and get the conversation back on track But this doesn't work because Neurotypicals don't do that. There's no such thing as pausing the situation pausing the conversation. It doesn't make any fucking sense It makes as much sense as like literally saying i'm stopping time, you know, it's just like that isn't something that they do and uh, I'd never really noticed that until You I saw that video, the guy talking about it, and that kind of tickled me about Max. It's like, that's, that's what he, he's doing. He's like, you know, having a meta like conversation about the conversation and then pressing play on it again. And, um, and it's just interesting cause it's like. Oh yeah, that sounds extra strange to neurotypical people because like, they don't do that at all, but that actually doesn't sound that weird to me.

josh 7:09

Yeah, some of the stuff, so one of the things that Max did that really got me was like the dog thing. it's so, so, so obvious. Extremely obvious. But, it was something that he, uh, Max puts it in there, and everybody loves the dog. I obviously, everybody already loves a dog, it's just that artificial

erika 7:32

Oh yeah.

josh 7:32

goes for the most tried and tested.

erika 7:35

that,

josh 7:36

tried and tested

erika 7:37

sorry, that part of the conversation too, cause Lauren was like, hoping that he was going to pick up on, you know, her. Like conversation starter of the dog and ask her about her dogs and and then he does and I was like, oh man You know an AI probably is going to have an advantage over Like most men in this game because most men really don't ask like reciprocal questions which That's that's a whole thing. I don't want to like asking reciprocal questions is not the only way to have a conversation, you know, so That's like that can just be a neurodivergent communication thing. But it is also like A skill of politeness. You tend to learn, um, like if somebody asks you a question about yourself, you ask them a question about themselves. If they ask you how your day is, you ask them back. And, um, uh, men like frequently just don't bother to do that. I think a lot of times, cause they're just really not interested. Um, like this is why you'll just, I don't know. I feel like every woman has a, like a first date story where, um, the man never, like learned anything about her or attended to and didn't even really notice that, like, she had to carry the entire conversation. And so then, but like, Max, no, can just figure out, oh, well, the rules of conversation here are that I'm supposed to ask back. And so I'm like, oh, yeah, he probably will have an, um, an advantage over, over a lot of men who just haven't been socialized to, with the expectation of having to do the work to keep up social interactions and keep them positive, like, functional.

josh 9:34

yeah, it's so funny, it reminds me of, I mean, the point that it got creepy to me was, was, it kind of reminded me of this story that I had read about. Um, there's this stupid book Uh, from a long time ago by a guy named Dale Carnegie. It's like how to win friends and influence people. Um,

erika 9:55

we've talked about it on here before.

josh 9:57

like, yeah. So one of the little anecdotes, uh, and I think we talked about that before was that he talks about how this guy who used to swindle women, um, widows, um, and kill them. Um, and so he

erika 10:13

cool.

josh 10:14

caught in. Yeah, he's caught and he's about to get punished and he has an interview. And in the interview, they're like, You're a regular looking guy. Like, how do you manage to find women who fall in love with you? Like, how do you get people to fall in love with you? Like, what's your secret? And he was like, well, my secret is simple. I just, I just talk to women about them. Like, about their interests and their stuff. And, and Max basically knows how to do that. Like,

erika 10:43

Mm hmm.

josh 10:43

talk about himself all the time. He also talks about, talks to the women about them.

erika 10:49

Yeah, it's, it's like how, it's why, like, I can, I can do fine in like public situations, social interactions and stuff is because like, uh, I know, like, so my mom told me this one once where she said, um, people, uh, If they like how they feel about themselves around you, they think that that means they like you. So they might not get to know anything about you, you might not say anything, but if you are asking questions about them and they feel interesting, then like, they're gonna come away from that conversation thinking, wow, like, she's awesome. And of course, yeah, like your, in your, um, example, that is something that can be used as a tactic of manipulation, but it also can just be used as a tactic of like conversation and also, um, like there's a positive way to look at it too, which, uh, my mom also taught me when I was going to middle school. Is she said like, um, Don't worry about like what other people are thinking about you because they're not thinking about you. They're thinking about themselves. Everybody is worried about what they're doing wrong and what other people are thinking about them. And most, everyone's like caught up in their own story and they're not even really thinking about you that much. And, uh, you know, I don't know. That might sound, It would have been harsh or something, but it's not at all. It's, it's, it's a freedom. Like people are, a lot of people have, you know, crippling social anxiety. Also a social anxiety is really like, which is why I've always protested the, um, the application of the term to me specifically. And just like, you can't take the term social anxiety and just apply it to autistic people generally to describe, um, Like, why our social interactions might not go well, because social anxiety is about the worry that like, you're going to say something wrong, that people aren't going to like you, that people are going to judge you. And I, that's never what I'm worried about. Um, sometimes I do have anxiety before social things, but it's mostly cause I'm like, I don't think I'm going to have a good time. Or like, I've been in this situation before and like. It's not, this isn't a, a crowd that I like, I do well with, you know.

josh 13:45

this is the episode where we start having this blast after blast of people trying to make alliances, people trying

erika 13:52

Yeah.

josh 13:53

into good graces of everyone, and especially the people who were at the bottom last time are trying to, trying very desperately to not be at the bottom. most specifically, Caress, who's playing as her brother Paul,

erika 14:08

Yeah.

josh 14:09

But totally coming off not as a hot,

erika 14:13

she

josh 14:14

something

erika 14:15

cannot tell the difference between something just like a cool, confident, young, I would say, and like something creepy. Wang. And it's probably because she hasn't had to worry that much about being creepy, you know, Like,

josh 14:32

No, no, no, no, not at all. Like, she just doesn't I

erika 14:35

especially she's so enthusiastic when she's like thinking of her stuff to say But then like I'm reading it and how it comes off. I'm like, oh she can't tell like that actually sounds creepy

josh 14:45

Yeah, yeah, and that's one of the reasons why later on we We're gonna talk about what happens her and a certain contestant, but like this is part of the reason I think she she has no idea why people are like being able to tell her. But the reason they're being able to tell is because you're not talking like a 20 year old guy. Like, you're not talking like a good looking 20 year old guy who's, you know, at that age is probably always thinking about sex. You're, you don't come off as that.

erika 15:17

Well, I mean like she's coming off like flirty but like not I think she's trying to do the like, um, just like, cool guy, like, hey, you know, she's being complimentary and stuff, but like, it just, it doesn't come off right, but also like, that makes sense. If we think about it just in a broader sense, um, how many like, 39 year old women, uh, could like, easily 26 year old man, like, and sound legit, like, the That's, uh, it's, that's hard. Like if I try to go undercover right now

josh 16:00

yeah,

erika 16:01

like

josh 16:01

happen.

erika 16:02

tween, you know, like in about 30 seconds, they'd be like, all right, you cop, get out of here, you know?

josh 16:09

Yeah, or like, imagine me trying to act like a twenty something. Like, it's just not gonna work out. And part of it has to do with language. I

erika 16:19

Yeah,

josh 16:20

forget that people speak very differently when they're in their teenage years, when they're in their twenties, when they're in their thirties, and when they're in their forties. You kind of, you can kind of tell from the words that someone is using what decade they were a child in. You know, what decade they grew up

erika 16:38

for sure.

josh 16:39

certain words that they're, like, you can kind of tell this. And I almost everyone else is in their 20s, right?

erika 16:47

Most of them, yeah, except for the astrologer. She's also like 35.

josh 16:52

Yeah, and and that's the thing So should we get there? Should we get to that point? I think we should just do it right now.

erika 16:59

Okay, hold on. I did want to say one thing real quick that I just thought of, though. Is that it did just occur to me that probably you and I have a similar experience, though, of not knowing the references that are necessarily normal for people our age. Because you didn't grow up in America, and I didn't grow up, like, with TV and, like, popular culture and stuff, and, um, so there, I, I, especially, like, as an adult, I've learned a lot of them, but Like, uh, so many of the, like, that part of how you kind of signal, you know, what in, what your in group is and what your age is and stuff is sort of like what you reference. And, um,

josh 17:50

Yeah, yeah

erika 17:51

and for a long time I didn't get any fucking references.

josh 17:56

Yeah, I feel like there's just, there's a vibe. There's a vibe that you feel. There are words that I just don't know. Like, I'll give you an example. Um, Uh, this was 2022. I moved into this house and it was summer and we had a new roommate that roommate's girlfriend would come, come and hang out. And one day I heard him say something like, Oh, wow, that's so hype. I'm like, What did you just say? What does that even mean? So hype. And apparently it means something for people in their 20s. It means, it means something

erika 18:32

Yeah, dope.

josh 18:33

know? Um, Yeah. Yeah. But like, I don't Dope and cool those were the words that being, that were being used for that. So once that guy gets into his thirties and his forties, gonna hear something else and say, what do you mean? Oh, oh, you mean that's so hype. Okay, great. Now I understand when you're

erika 18:54

Yeah.

josh 18:55

And that's kind

erika 18:56

I think I've kept up with it a bit.

josh 18:59

off as

erika 18:59

I've kept up with it a bit because I had to, because of, you know, the whole being autistic thing, I had to make a concerted effort to learn the, you know, how to talk like a normal person when I was, you know, 12. Like, and it's, I, it did, like, baffle me, like, how did, how did everybody else, like, learn what all the slang words are and, like, feel, how, like, start feeling so comfortable using them. So I could tell the people who were like huge dorks and I really did not wanna be like a huge loser,

josh 19:38

So you were okay being a smallish loser?

erika 19:40

yeah, yeah, like, you know, I can't completely change who I am, but I don't wanna be like the most unfortunate version. Um, so I think, yeah, I've cons, I've continued to like. Keep up with that sort of thing. But honestly, I learned, I have learned the definition of so many words from Twitter. Like people just talking about something. And so, like, I, I will learn about it in a dorky way. But Some things you end up, you know, incorporating into your own idiolect.

josh 20:22

Yeah, I, I, it's very, it has been very difficult for me to keep track of those things, partly because I don't spend a lot of time hanging out in groups, and the thing with words, new words is that they're born out of group interaction, especially group interaction among young people who are on, like who either don't care about grammar or there's nobody to correct them or they just do it for fun and they just create new language. Um, the problem is once you get out of that age, you don't acquire that language. That, that language always, Keeps, has like a non serious connotation for you because it's people who are younger than you. Um, you always want to, we always try to, um, like official speech is always the, the speech of people from 50, 60 years ago, you know? Um,

erika 21:13

Yeah, you see? That's why

josh 21:15

it's, strange.

erika 21:15

we're all still talking.

josh 21:17

to get too deep into this, but, anyway, um. So, the new people come in, and Lauren immediately gets in Max's business, and is loving it. He's like, this is great, I'm gonna get, make friends with the, the influencer, even though I'm AI.

erika 21:36

is when we find out, oh yeah, AIs, they do not have to, uh, confine themselves to Isaac Asimov's three rules of robotics. They can lie to you, for sure.

josh 21:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, they bond over dogs. And then, you get, uh, others try to bond. And so, it turns out that the boys have been bonding, and then the girls have been bonding. And so, you have like, multiple alliances going around. But, then you get some of the guys try to create another group. And it's actually just two guys, an AI and a woman, pretending to be a guy. So you have Caress and who gets the AI Max in the room and also gets Kyle and Miles and they create a, a bros before hoes group. Um, but at the same time, we know that there's only two guys in there. Um, and I think that was so funny to me. It was funny to me to see that, see how that dynamic was coming about.

erika 22:44

Also, how Kyle never, like, at least as far as I remember, He never seems to have any suspicions about Caress. He's always like, yes, I love everything this dude says, which is kind of funny. Because like, a lot of other people have gotten sort of a feeling.

josh 23:00

Yeah, but that's the thing. A lot of people haven't gotten any feelings about Olivia, who's also Brandon. Which really makes me wonder how, you know, engaged everyone is.

erika 23:11

I mean, A few people have said things, but I also feel like, um, Nobody's instincts have turned out to be, like, particularly acute, um, because, like,

josh 23:23

Except one person.

erika 23:25

what?

josh 23:26

And we're gonna get

erika 23:27

Oh, well, not all of her instincts are good.

josh 23:30

Well, so, they do this thing, Between all of these alliances and everyone trying to get everyone to like them, Um, They do this little activity the little activity is that they're all supposed to write rap lyrics and then perform, well not perform it live, but you know rap lyrics and they all get 15 minutes and they're all dressed up in these rap clothes.

erika 23:56

This is when I was like, wow, this show is Netflix's

josh 24:00

Yeah,

erika 24:02

reality show. They went to Party City and got, like, 20 bucks worth of stuff.

josh 24:08

I know, it was sad. Two of them were dressed as Flavor Fluff. It was just like, Fluff! They had like, locks around their necks, and I'm just like, dude, you guys spent like, literally, you spent 60 on all of these costumes. Um, and Yeah, they get in there, and they start rapping, and obviously Lauren and Max, uh, rap about each other. By the way, both of their raps are terrible, um, but it becomes pretty clear to everybody that

erika 24:44

Everyone's raps are, terrible.

josh 24:47

There was no rap that was good. Every it was shit. Listener, if you listen to it, you say the same thing. It's not your it is, it is,

erika 24:57

I mean,

josh 24:57

they

erika 24:58

of these people are poets, you know? I haven't They also keep, like, thinking that they're writing absolute bangers of, like, tweets to each other. And that's, like, having so much fun! Hashtag fun!

josh 25:12

The one thing I will say though, One thing I'll say though, is that the AI played it really well. Cause the AI could've pulled some fire lyrics, you know?

erika 25:23

Um, maybe. I have, just for fun, asked ChatGBT to write a lot of raps about random topics for me. And I would not say fire lyrics are, like, really what it's good at. Sometimes, like, can you try to make this, like, less corny? And it's like, no, I can't.

josh 25:43

it was bad. It was bad. But anyway, we have, they, they, they, rap sort of solidifies the fact that Lauren and Max are going to be each other's number one. So, and since Lauren is an influencer, it's a pretty big deal, because she's now lost to the others.

erika 26:00

And she's falling in love with an AI boyfriend and has no idea. It's like the plot of

josh 26:05

fucking sad. And then you get Steffi. who comes up and basically points a finger at Keres, who's cosplaying as her brother, Paul, uh, and accuses her of being a catfish. And she's so freaking mad. I mean, it's the fir the most mad catfish you've ever seen in your life. Um, but, um, she's mad about it. She's super mad about it, and she but she makes, like, a rap that is, like, more conciliatory. But here's the thing. Here's why I think Stuffy knows that, um, Whatchamacallit, that Caress is actually catfishing because Stuffy is much much closer in age To her so for her. It's kind of easy to see if someone is like Someone is like in their 30s and late 30s and versus someone who's in their mid 20s

erika 27:01

Uh, yeah. And, like, a hot 35 year old woman is still having lots of 26 year old men hit on her. So, like, she would know. Like, this isn't what they usually sound like, you know? Like, uh, you're not like, unfamiliar with how younger people talk if younger people come up and hit on you still. Like, which, back when I used to leave my house, you know, uh, would happen to me and I'd be like, oh, you can't tell, but I can tell. Like, I'm way too old for you, based off of the way you're talking to me.

josh 27:44

Yeah, yeah, and so that, that's, that comes out. Everyone else raps as well, um, and it all sucks. None of the raps

erika 27:52

Yeah,

josh 27:53

I'm sorry, but

erika 27:54

I love how they act like, um, they act like Cory's rap. Like, Cory is the only one I feel like who everyone's like, Ooh, huh? It's like, oh, come on. You guys are all bad.

josh 28:04

Yeah, so we have Cory, and then Cory is done, and one of the things that happens is immediately Karest is like, I need to go. my buddy Kyle, and like, do the bros before hosting one last time to make sure that we are the same, same team. And Kyle has no idea. Kyle still has no idea. The caress is, is not real.

erika 28:29

I mean, I think Kyle is only seeing, like, things about himself that he likes, you know, in him, so, like, he's not noticing, cause, like, so far, it's just like, Oh, another guy, like, who claims to have all the same opinions as me, you know? Like, this guy's like me, he's cool.

josh 28:54

Yeah. Yeah. That's a rat. And then we have, we have others try to go around and figure out what's going on. Uh, Quarry is cornered and questioned, but Quarry doesn't give anything out to, to, to Paul, who we all know is actually caress.

erika 29:12

Yeah, that but she does like cuz I think at first she's excited and then like the conversation kind of quickly turns like No, this is weird Because I think that's one of the situations where Kharaz can't tell like you're not It's not sounding to her the same way like it's sounding to you when you type it, which I mean Is that's the tough thing about fucking written communication, you know, like it happens to all of us all the time, uh, whether we know it or not, a lot of times, you know, the autistic experience is having no idea that, um, you have had a giant miscommunication with somebody because you like, don't even realize that, uh, Maybe you came off like a certain way and now they're passive aggressively texting you or not texting you and you can't tell. Like, um, yeah, I feel like that's one of the more awkward parts of this episode. It's just like every time that there's an interaction between two people and then They like, have completely different opinions about how it just went. One of them's like, yes, we're friends! And the other one's like, oof, that person's a weirdo. I'm, you know, it gives me secondhand embarrassment.

josh 30:35

extremely weird, there's another weird thing that, that happens. Which is Steffi does a little horoscope for everybody. What did you think about that?

erika 30:45

I mean, I thought the Yilgo was worse, I'll be honest. Um, I was like, I was with Miles on that one, where I was like, I would be annoyed if somebody was just like suddenly trying to make me do yoga. Um, and also like, she group messaged everybody at the same time. So everyone at first thought like, ooh, I'm getting a special message. And then it was like, wait, why don't you just reply in like the main chat? Um, And then, yeah, I mean, horoscopes and stuff, I guess one thing I was struck by was like, wow, she knows a lot of facts off the top of her head. Cause like, I do know, like, what trine means and stuff like, but, um, I'm not somebody who knows, you know, oh, that's gonna be moving through your third house, you know, like, I don't have the movements of the stars, uh, memorized. Um, And I don't have like, um, uh, I don't have particular feelings about astrology, I guess, because for a long time, um, like, I really did not enjoy conversations about astrology because I had a hard time, like, keeping up my, like, politeness, because I was just like, this is dumb. And living in LA, it was just like, constant with people, like, asking you what your sign is, and like, I had to learn my sun, moon, and rising, just like, to answer people. Um, And I'm a Capricorn, so usually that would just result in people being like, huh, well that, that's, I wouldn't have guessed that, you know, um, but I also like, I've had some very weird experiences with things that can't be explained, so like, um, There's one person in particular who every time like I've heard what they have to say about astrology I'm like, holy crap. Okay. I believe you you You can divine the fates from the stars. I don't know about everybody else. But um, but yeah, let's like I think uh it's a risk to just like try and tell somebody else about about like their horoscope or whatever because like a lot of times you're gonna be wrong and it's either They're gonna have to like politely Astrology Pretend that you're not wrong, or they're gonna have to tell you that you're wrong and it's gonna be awkward. So, I feel like it's best to, like, not do that unless somebody, like, explicitly wants it. Like, I, I read tarot cards, I would never, like, I don't know if you're like, here, let me, let me tell your fortune. To somebody who was not, like, super interested and, and down. Like, that's, yeah, that's awkward. Well, it's like when people try to pray with me or something. I'm like, um,

josh 34:00

Oh

erika 34:00

can't even. Pretend to get anything out of it. So like, please don't make me pretend to do religious stuff with you. Cause it's not gonna be whatever experience you're helping to get out of it. You know,

josh 34:16

Yeah, yeah, and

erika 34:18

what did you think of it all, Steffi?

josh 34:21

I, I mean, she read the horoscope of an A. I. and totally fell for the A. I. because the A. I. told us all that the most popular sign is cancer.

erika 34:31

yeah, that was pretty funny.

josh 34:32

made himself a cancer. And, uh, Steffi totally fell for it. So, there it is. Um, As for the whole, yeah, I mean, I felt like some people were super bored, as was I. So, um, the yoga part just did not happen. Like, totally not.

erika 34:54

You want to know the only thing, like, this is genuinely just strange to me about astrology is, um, I found out, like, a few years ago, I realized that, um, almost everyone in my life is a Scorpio, like, both of my parents, um, almost everyone I have ever dated, um, It's just like overwhelming. So that, that I was like, okay, that's kind of, that's legitimately sort of strange that like, it makes sense. It made sense when I realized I'd been surrounding myself with neurodivergent people, but also like I'd been surrounding myself with Scorpios, like, that's kind of weird. The only other people I know, they're all Virgos. Like, like, that's it. Most of the, of the signs of the Zodiac, I don't know them. I don't know any of them. I don't know any Aquariuses. I don't know any Tauruses. I don't know. It's like, but I know 17 Scorpios and 14 Virgos or something. Yeah, so that's, I don't know. That's my meaningless information that makes me go, Hey, I don't know. Can't write it off completely. Something weird's going on. And no, I don't believe, I no longer bow down to the church of coincidences. Sometimes, like, the modern western belief in coincidence becomes goofy at a certain point in itself.

josh 36:30

I'm looking forward to the next episodes and seeing what happens there. I was not as happy with this episode. There was too much yoga, and too much horoscoping.

erika 36:42

it's episode two!

josh 36:44

rapping, like,

erika 36:44

You're like,

josh 36:45

was

erika 36:45

trying to fill

josh 36:46

Like, what happened to your budget?

erika 36:49

Honestly, also Frida got bored and she left like 10 minutes before the end and she won't watch anymore with me. So,

josh 36:56

What? She's never gonna watch it again? What

erika 36:59

she just didn't like it. Um, I, you know, I think we had a lot of fun making fun of it the first episode and then like this episode there wasn't enough nude stuff to make fun of and then she just like got bored and started doing her laundry. And then I realized like, I'm not having fun watching this by myself. So, Yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna make it through the whole season.

josh 37:20

I'm sorry, that sounds

erika 37:21

Oh Um,

josh 37:23

but I'm looking

erika 37:24

total, yeah, I mean, I, I, you know, I will honor my professional commitments, so I'll watch the next episode. Um, and did you see that there is a new, um, ultimatum South Africa? on Netflix.

josh 37:42

I had not seen it, but I might

erika 37:44

it, just came out. Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen it. I just saw that it exists. Um, so that sounds like something juicy and up our alleys.

josh 37:54

Yeah, Maybe? that is something that you will be listening to very

erika 37:58

Maybe? Perhaps? Um, so yeah, uh, The Circle, uh, terrible, terrible show, honestly, in so many ways. Um, but, You know, there were some things, like, too hot to handle. I feel like I ended up, like, uh, finding some, like, interesting things about it by the end of the season and stuff. That, at the beginning of the season, I'm like, this is so dumb. So, you know, maybe that will happen here too. I don't know.

josh 38:35

Yeah, all right, well, and then I, I guess we will have to say goodbye to you for until then.

erika 38:41

Yeah, so sad. Guess we'll just hang out in these super cool hotel rooms. Oh my god, so beautiful. Until then, keep catfishing. Bye!

josh 39:01

Until then, we will see you soon. Bye!